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for a big deficit reduction and debt reduction package. we were offering a deal that caused for as much discretionary savings as the gang of six. we were calling for taxes that were less than what the gang of six had proposed. and we had -- we were calling for modifications to entitlement programs. this was an extraordinarily fair deal. if it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue. nancy pelosi, harry reid, the democratic leadership, they sure did not like the plan that we were proposing to boehnor, but they were at least willing to engage in a conversation because they understood how important it is for us to actually solve this problem. and so far, i have not seen the capacity of the house republicans in particular to make those tough decisions. what a lot of the american people are so disappointed by is this sense that all the talk about responsibility, all the talk about the next generation, all the talk about making sacrifices, that when it comes to actually doing something difficult, folks walk away. here's what we're going to do. we have now run
"morning joe." now time for "the daily rundown". >>> big disappointment on the job front. employment stalled, unemployment rises to 9.2%, stock futures dropping big-time on the news. the president will address the numbers later this morning. >>> no deal yet, but president obama and congressional leaders will work all weekend and instead of barbs we're hearing words like "constructive" and "productive." optimism abounds as a deal is truly in the works. both sides seem prepared for seergs concessions. what do these jobs numbers mean and will they hold up a deal as it gets rid of a lot of other issues at this point? >>> and with outside groups set to pour millions into the 2012 race, what's an incumbent pro president to do? is fighting fire with fire the answer? it's friday, june 8, 2012. >>> also this morning, waiting the final shuttle launch. will weather clear in time? and we've honored a departed friend you've invited into your living rooms for decades. >>> this jobs report, we thought the big news today would be the debt talks, but a stunning jobs report, gain of just 1
of a short term budget deal in the bud. calls leaders back to the white house. define big. a fresh new hampshire poll out find mitt romney holding strong. both in the primary and general but michelle bachmann has made big gains. is it time for republicans to start rally ago rounds a single candidate? some leaders think so. we'll ask the head of the republican party whether he agrees. and look at these pictures. it's a massive -- this is real. not special effects. 50 mile dust storm. it envelopes phoenix, arizona. downed trees. delayed flights. cut off power to thousands. not rain, folks. dust. wednesday, july 6, 2011. i'm chuck todd. let me get to my first reads of the morning. the idea of a short term debt deal gaining momentum in the senate. president nipped that talk in the bud. >> heard reports that there may be some in congress who want to do just enough to make sure that america avoid defaulting on our debt in the short term but then wants to kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. i don't share that view. >> the president's public s
economic soundness to this country. that take as big deal. a lot of pain. democrats are upset the president talked about pain on their side of the ail and republicans are saying no way will we give tax relief to middle income americans. they want to continue tax relief to the wealthy. everyone agrees a number around $4 trillion will make a serious debt on our deficit. it will send a statement to the world that the u.s. has gotten ahold of their fiscal problems and they are moving forward. it will give confidence to the american people that we can move forward to bring economic soundness. that's the president's commitment. >> 6:00 on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." look at that nice live look at times square. joe is looking spify today. he went shopping. it is monday, july 11th. >> i don't know what that means. >> we have msnbc -- well, yes. this is unusual. we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, john heilemann. what's so funny? >> yeah, what's so funny? i don't get it. he's back. >> we can't get him to leave. we have "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner and in washington
. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put into legislative language with only 13 days to go
democrats are calling for a roll back for tax benefits for wealthy americans, big corporations. republicans essentially saying, they can't support anything that looks like a tax hike. so we expect the president to come forward in his remarks today and resume his calls for a big deal. he's going to say now is the time to seize the moment and we're going to have to accept some political pain on both sides. that's something that we've heard him say before. political pain for the democrats would be coming to the table over entitlement reforms, in terms of social security, medicare, and, again, for the republicans, political pain might mean tax revenues. so that's what we expect him to say, chris. he's going to say that they're going to continue to talk until they get a deal done. as you know, there's that august 2nd deadline looming large. a lot of lawmakers want to see a deal within the next ten days so that that deal can be scored by the do and sold to both houses of congress. chris? >> thank you very much, kristin. let's go to new york and luke russert, coverage of capitol hill.
14% in taxes and corporations pay 0%, and you raise more, you can have us a big deal here. >> they're still drawing lines in the sand that seem insurmountable with weeks to go before the august 2 deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for yet another meeting to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. officials familiar with the negotiations say majority leader eric cantor dominated yesterday's meeting. cantor laid out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by vice president biden, specifically $2 trillion in cuts in the next decade. the figure includes $1 trillion in discretionary spending. $200 billion in medicare and medicaid. and $200 billion to $300 billion on saved interest in the debt. >> so the military -- the military, i guess, comes in in the mandatory discretionary spending. >> military. >> sources familiar with the talks add that after the presentation president obama said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1 pp 7 trillion. but there are still some issues to resolve. at one point in t
as well. so we need to do something big. >>> plus, decline of an empire? murdoch makes the cover of "time." the uk makes another arrest. and u.s. lawmakers demand investigations into news corp's actions here at home. >>> strikeout. why did the judge just declare a mistrial in the roger clemens' perjury case? >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. it's round five of the debt talks today. coming off the most heated exchange yet in the debt negotiations between president obama and republican leaders. eric cantor says the president all but stormed out of the last meeting. democrats have a different story. their version is that in fact, it was the republicans' fault. major garrett is congressional correspondent. here we are unveiling the cover as we do every week of the "national journal." let's talk about these negotiations. we've got he said/he said, basically. you have two sides accusing each other of storming out. it clearly got a little bit testy. >> it got testy -- >> we're told cantor interrupted the president several times. >> eric cantor was persistent, i'm sure. eric c
find himself in the unemployment line. it's that big of an issue. new polling in four key swing states tell the story. over 50% of voters in ohio, missouri and montana say that they will be less likely to vote for president obama if he makes any cuts. that's any cuts to medicare/medicaid benefits. the same holds true if the president signs off on any deal that cuts social security. president obama will never win reelection if he loses 50% of the voters in a state like ohio. now, there is really good reason -- no good reason anywhere to put entitlement cuts on the table with numbers like this. this is mind-boggling to the democratic caucus right now. i know, i spoke to a dozen of them tonight at a function here in washington. republicans. they will never take it as a tried-off for raising taxes on the rich. eric canter made that crystal clear this morning. >> i can tell you one thing, we are united as republicans to say now is not the time to raise taxes. i have talked with the speaker. he is not for increase in taxes. >> we are not for any net new revenues right now. what we want to fo
ahead with a big deal maybe triggered in or staged later? >> i heard what the president said. i don't think business itself is bothered by the debt ceiling deal or no deal. i think what they may be bothered by is the uncertainty surrounding future tax regime that's going to be required to deal with these deficits. however, factoring into the negotiations what maybe somewhat helpful to the president in a slew of numbers that by and large are totally unhelpful is we're seeing the near term effects of cutting back in government spending. it cost jobs. not just in the government sector, but also in knock on private sector jobs as well. >> steve liesman with all the numbers and what that mean. thank you so much. good to see you, steve. republicans using the bad jobs report to scuttle any new taxes in a budget deal. joining me now virginia democratic senator mark warner a key member of the so-called gang of slight, slightly shrunk to five. still hoping senators working for months on ways to reduce the deficit. your quick reaction to the jobs report first and how it will effect the negotia
as you know can happen instantly if some big player decides to sell off. >> obviously i'm not qualified to speak on behalf of the markets and what they will or will not do, but just my own judgment based upon all the various kinds of conversations that are occurring, are that we will find a way to deal with this issue. we do know that the root cause of our debt and deficit problem is spending is just too high. we also want economic growth. we don't want to embrace policies that we sincerely believe will damage the economy and hurt job creation. if you do that, then you lose even more revenues. so what we want to do is get a downpayment on our deficit and debt by getting spending cuts. i think that there are constructive conversations that are occurring both sides of the rotund rotunda, both sides of pennsylvania avenue. i do believe cooler heads will prevail. >>> what are the constructive conversations? for instance, are some elements of the gang of six proposal, i know you said it's not specific enough, it doesn't go adequately to slowing the growth of health spending, but are there co
is a big point of concern here. nancy pelosi was very adamant yesterday, saying that the republican caucus would not accept any deal that would cut medicare, cut social security. and remember, they're most likely going to need democratic votes to get this across the finish line because we're expecting any type of deal to extend the nation's debt limit will get a lot of republican defection. >> we just got the two-minute warning. we saw some activity from one of the staffers coming out to put president obama's notes at that podium. so i want to keep you with me right now to talk about what can we expect with the president telling everyone they need to stay in town, not go home, there's going to be work over the weekend, and that they're going to be in session next week trying to hammer this out? >> they're going to be in session next week. and we also got word the house will stay in session july 18th. essentially what you're seeing now, thomas, is some of it's political show, obviously, when people have to work on sunday that sends a message to the american people, you're having your day of
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have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
a big deal. so what is a big deal? white house officials tell me anything over $2 trillion, but he is pushing for more in the area of cuts that would equal $4 trillion over the next 10 to 12 years. now, this all comes against the backdrop of a report today in the "washington post" saying thatm president obama is putting social security on the table along with medicare and medicaid and when we asked the white house about this, they said, look, this is not news. the president has always supported the idea of small cuts in those entitlement programs to make them more effective as long as the cuts didn't impact beneficiaries and having said that some folks on the hill say there are some scenarios which would see a major overhaul of the entitlement programs, but the white house says they would not want to see anything to overhaul the main programs. but one of the sticking points here, thomas, is taxes. democrats want to see a rollback in tax credits for the wealthy americans and in big corporations, and the republicans have said no way, we don't support anything that looks like a tax in
>>> the big story today, money talks. i'm matt milner for dylan ratigan. you'll be shocked. no magic the fix out of today's bipartisan sitdown at the white house. more agreeing to disagree for now. >> nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to and the parties still far apart on a wide range of issues. everybody acknowledged that there's going to be pain involved politically on all sides. >> still, the president hinting at subtle signs of progress. now pushing to double the size of proposed spending cuts to $4 trillion over ten years. democrat and republican leaders will work through the weekend and meet with president obama again on sunday. areas of potential xpra mize, closing loopholes in the tax code if it doesn't sound like a tax code and changing yearly adjustments for social security. yes, social security is back on the table. though the white house says their only goal, "strengthen the program." keep in mind the august 2nd august debt ceiling deadline is less than four weeks away. mike viqueira is live on the lawn of the white house. what if anything was acco
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
? >> what we need to do is the president proposed that we deal with this very big problem in a big way. and that democrats should put all of our sacred cows on the table. we demonstrated that we're willing to put all our sacred cows on the table. the republicans are simply not willing to do anything but sit on their hands and cross their arms like spoiled children, almost. and that's just not responsible. what democrats want to do when it comes to dealing with entitlements is make sure that we don't end medicare as we know it. that we don't cut benefits but we look at medicare and social security in a way that can preserve the long-term solvency of those programs and not propose what the republicans have to end those programs. >> speak of safety nets, the president did say in his interview last night that he could not guarantee that he would continue paying social security benefits if there were a default. this is what michele bachmann had to say about that. >> we were all shocked and appalled that president obama dangeled out in front of the cameras that senior citizens may not get th
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
they are in crisis mode. a big vote coming this afternoon in the house. members will consider speaker john boehner's debt bill. but even if he can rein in tea party members to get it passed, 51 democratic senators vowed to block it. >> if this debate continues to be driven by the extremes, well, whether we go off the cliff august 2nd or go off the cliff at the end of the year, we'll be at the same place. >> i've got a little rebellion on my hands every day. it comes with the territory. >> you're not worried. >> never let them see you sweat. >> i think we'll end up in a stalemate. i anticipate that the boehner bill will get through the house today after he's pushed his folks kind of hard, and then it will be dead on arrival once it gets to the senate. >> of course, time is running out. default just five days away and things are getting so bad the u.s. treasury is now weighing which bills to pay if the country defaults. michael scherer is the correspondent for "washington post," and louise story, according to politico republican leaders are very prepared to say to the president take it or leave it.
'm a little bit of a restaurant of history. and there are a lot of real big things that have been gone in this country by executive order. president truman up until this point my favorite president of all times. integrated the armed services by executive order. couldn't get the congress to do it. there seemed to be little support for it my hometown senator left the democratic party buzz he did it and ran for president as a states rider. but the president did it. it was a bold move and as far as i can tell people like colin powell are very thankful that president truman did what he did. >> in the current case let me ask you about the whip count you were the whip and still a great vote counter are you and steny hoyer and nancy pelosi going to give john boehner an exit strategy with some democrat votes since it's clear he doesn't have enough votes just relying on republicans? >> if he were to come to the floor with a bipartisan bill, i think he would get bipartisan support. right now he's running this on his own within his own caucus. he is not involving nancy pelosi or steny hoyer or you
: that's the big question today. that is what everybody is asking. republicans today are seizing on the job numbers, reinforcing their very firm stance against raising taxes. they say by their calculation that's that cost jobs to raise taxes in an economy such as this one, causing ploishz to shed more jobs. >> nbc's mike viqueira will be joining us later in the hour. thanks, vic. just moments ago house speaker john boehner reacted to the new jobs numbers. take a listen. >> after hearing this morning's jobs report i'm sure the american people are still asking the question, where are the jobs? the stimulus spending binge, excessive government regulations, and our overwhelming debt continue to hold back job creators around our country. >> all right. let's bring in former clinton deputy press secretary jennifer palmieri, senior vp of communications at the central for american progress, and republican strategy of the boris epstein. thanks for joining us today. wish we had better news to talk about today. i want to start with this. first of all, your reaction, jennifer to what spoker b
unpublished research that indicates it might be simply big time peptide disorders. we don't know. i don't think it's as simple as trying to pass by the kentucky fried checken outlet without going in. this is a serious medical problem. we need to know more about it before we know how to treat it right. >> not that i disagree with you, governor but sometimes we reach for more complex reasons when the simpler reasons are in front of us. the tv remote control clicker and video games. this nation is filled with kids from 8 to 18 who never get off the couch. look at the advertisements for the real to life video games we have around us. that's all they play. they don't go out and play catch or run down the block to get milk. >> i think that's true. i didn't mean to say it had nothing to do with it but i think it's going to be a complex set of problems. it's going to defie easy political solutions. >> we'll move on to the budget. nine of ten states with the highest obesity led by mississippi, alabama and west virginia. they lead the nation in diabetes and high blood pressure. it's, you know, ob
't. >> it could mean big losses on wall street and beyond. asian and european stocks are tight. the ceos of some of the biggest banks are expressing their concern. ceos of banks including goldman sachs, bank of america say this, a default on our nation's obligations or downgrade of america's credit rating would be a tremendous blow to business and investors in an already difficult economic circumstances. steve rattner. >> look, the fact is, this government, at the moment, ironically, at a time when people are saying let's not forget about jobs. this government is doing their best to destroy jobs as we are sitting here. business needs confidence. it needs some idea of what is going to happen. i don't know if you follow what's going out of the faa. there are 4,000 faa contractors out of work because the democrats and republicans can't agree on subsidies. they are just sitting there doing nothing instead of building infrastructure. the republicans and democrats can't agree on one tiny issue. >> there's no level of certainty. all different levels of this country. >> wouldn't that be the goal here, b
the democrats and their negotiating position in the big debt ceiling fight in washington. whether or not the white house really just put social security and medicare on the table for cuts. that is all ahead. but we start tonight with a dramatic development in a life or death issue. it is literally about life and death. about the power of the government to kill people it is holding prisoner. but it's also about presidential politics, and who will be the republican party's nominee for president this year. there are two unquestionable truisms in coverage of republican presidential politics right now. one is that the prohibitive favorite to get the republican party's nomination, the front-runner so far out in front it is almost impossible to imagine anyone catching him is mitt romney. mitt romney seen here at the romney fundraiser today in london, england, of all places. mr. romney leads in all scientific international polls at this point, in all iowa polls, new hampshire polls, and in fundraiser. he is the front-runner and is front running alone. that is truism number one. truism num
are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got that done, would that be enough? then paul ryan said, no. we need a fundamental tr
. but that could be a fer mat where you have not the grand barring of an huge cuts and big structural change but something smaller more likely to help the country limp bat of the deadline and then maybe start talks for a broerd change for social programs and the tax base. but this is a dire circumstance because there is so much hope about the cooperation between the speaker,er ek cantor and the president, and geithner. a serious impasse. the president will be able to tell us more when he comes to the microphone. i was told the president received a phone call within the last half hour or so and hill leaders just hearing about it today as well. and a lengthy letter going out to house colleagues saying there was never a deal, it was never close and they are breaking this off. >> this could also be speaker boehner feeling the pressure of the tea party. >> certainly. >> -- caucus in the house. and clearly if he is saying that gang of six proposal, we certainly haven't confirmed it, this could be him having to bow to pressure in his own caucus from some of tea party freshmen and the like. >> every
or you know, too big government. because there's plenty that needs to be done in this country. we need to fix schools. we need to fix sewers at water systems. we need to hire more healthcare workers and child care workers. and that's exactly what wee we should do. this is back -- >> we need to build highways, tunnels. look at traffic you've got to go to in chicago just to get to the show. representative, thanks for your time tonight. have a great weekend. >> thank you, al. >>> up next, michele bachmann takes another big step to the right. and falls off the deep end. is she taking her campaign down with her? >>> and the party of the rich is having some money problems. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is america. what makes our country great? our can-do spirit and our can-do cheese. kraft singles. this cheese rolls up its sleeves and gets the job done 'cause we're always made with milk and we're rich in calcium to help build 'em up strong! and fast! is is salonpas. >>> welcome back to the show. now to discuss some of the big political stories. with we have the power panel. joining m
bill clinton. >>> and, casey anthony is a free woman this wednesday. was this a big fail for our justice system? or proof that it worked. >>> welcome to the show. i'm al sharpton. to nights's lead. just how much is president obama willing to compromise in the debt fight? the president obama met today with leaders of both parties at the white house. and he said, everyone must sacrifice to make a deal. >> nothing is agreed to until everything's agreed to. and the parties are still far apart on a wide range ever issues. everybody acknowledged that there is going to be pain involved politically on all sides. but our biggest obligation is to make sure that we're doing the right thing by the american people. >> but democrats are nervous that the white house may agree to as much as $4 trillion in cuts over ten years. under that plan, democrats would agree to cuts in social security, medicare, and medicaid. in return, republicans would sign off on up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. which they don't seem willing to do. >> everything is on the table except raising taxes on the americ
we all know the country needs which is the big deal. $4 trillion of deficit reduction to get our debt going down to put america on a stronger fiscal foundation going forward. that's really what's required. i believe it's still achievable. but we've got to change a little bit about how we talk about these things on both sides. >> you said at this point you think the president is right to threat tn veto. what if it's august 1st at midnight and approaching august 2nd, the markets are clamoring, would you still say that a short-term extension and continued talks are not the best option? >> you're a very good reporter. you pick up on nuance, don't you? >> we try. >> i don't want to bargain against my position. so i think it's critically important that the president continue to push for what we all know the country really needs. it's incumbent on both sides, on both sides to come together and do what's right for america. >> chairman conrad thank you very much. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> the big question looming over all of this and the debt talks is what will happen if a deal i
's a really big misunderstanding about folks like myself that got elected in 2010. sure, i sprang from the tea party, but what the tea party is all about is we love this country. we realize we're bankrupting, and the only guarantee i made during the election is i would not vote -- i would never vote with my re-election might not. that's what i i came here for. i came here to actually fix the problem. that's a little different. the long-term politicians here aren't used to that type of commitment to saving our country. that's really the difference here, and until the political class here understands that, they're going to continue to misunderstand what the tea party is all about. not crazy. we're patriots. we love this country. we don't want to see it go bankrupt. >> senator ron johnson. good to have you on with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> the man who confessed to slaughtering at least 93 people in norway has been arraigned in court this morning. take a look. this is the photo just released, showing anders breivik leaving court. the judge ordered the court doors to be closed so he wouldn
. luke, what kind of response are lawmakers getting today on capitol hill? >> quite a big one, contessa. we can report that earlier this morning the house call center the communication arm of the house in charge of all the house telephones sent out an email to members saying quote, due to the high volume of external calls to the house telephone circuits they are near capacity. some members should be receiving busy signals. several house websites crashed specifically that of speaker of the house john boehner. the question is whether or not it will transfer into some sort of change of what the status quo is right now and that really is both sides digging in quite rigidly on their plans. democrats supporting harry reid's plan the $2.7 trillion cut across the board. republicans in favor of john boehner's plan, with an extension of the debt limit. that's where both sides are still very much. >> kristen, let's talk with you about where the white house goes from here. can they capitalize on this? the people are willing to go online -- i had trouble getting on the house website today maybe not
36 hours will be crucial to decide if a big deal can win support from congress. >> everybody around the table agreed that there is not an option of allowing the debt limit not to be extended so that america does not default on its debt. >> what we have here is a lack of leadership from the white house on what we know is mathematically is necessary to fix this problem. >> we've look the at all available options and we have no way to give congress more time to solve this problem and we're running out of time. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. is there still hope for a deal? >> reporter: in many ways, it is. good morning to you, chris. president obama told congressional leaders it's decision time. he said we're going to take the day off for a meeting on friday, go back to your caucuses and then come back to me. talks right now are stalled, they've been dealing with the same issues. president obama saying he wants a large deficit reduction package, he says he'll come to the table over entitlement reform if republicans will come to the table for rolling back tax credits
, actually, if they know there's a big deal behind it will be quite -- wouldn't they, john heilemann? >> i think so. the time is tough right now. listen to harry reid and mitch mcconnell who know how the senate works and how long it takes to do the following things, to reform medicare and tax reform. they are things that typically can take many months to get done. >> isn't it a surprise? it wasn't a surprise the show started at 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's no surprise we have a deadline. >> to build the legislation is not something that can happen in the span of four or five days. you can't. the key issue is what obama will be wanting to see is the outlines of a deal where he has a good assurance the outlines of the deal can get past once the meat is put on the bones. if that's the case and the markets see that, everything will be fine. whether it's a few days extension or a couple weeks, it's going to take a lot to get to that point. there's no consensus on the house side among house republicans in favor of what the gang of six is doing. as we saw in the film, the video, house democr
was apparently trying to do, get a big deal in a balanced way. so, that's the good news. again, the details still have to come out and senator durbin, a member of the gang of six said yesterday, they don't have legislative language. the question is, you know, what can be done between now and august 2nd, if anything with the plan or do we need to continue to proceed with a back-up plan, plan b. >> chris, i was going to ask earlier, last hour to steve rattner who was here and suggested if the plan were to go forward, there would have to be a month or two month extension to allow the committee chairman and chairwoman in the house and senate to do their business. this would be the most dramatic reform of entitlement since the reagan era. there would have to be an extension of time for the debt ceiling, would there not? >> i think it's right. we would have to work out some interim arrangement to proceed down that road. again, exactly what the time line would be and that question would remain to be seen. the good news is this provides some additional momentum to the idea of getting something big done.
stick with me. we'll take it. go, big money! i mean, go. it's your break, honey. same coverage, more savings. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> coming up, is washington broken? former senator chuck hagel, mayor cory booker of newark, representative adam kinzinger, historian doris kearns goodwin and our own andr >>> and we're back with a special roundtable discussion this morning. joining me now, presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, host of msnbc's "andrea mitchell reports," our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, democratic mayor of newark, new jersey, cory booker, former republican senator chuck hagel of nebraska, and joining us for his first appearance on the program, republican congressman adam kinzinger. i didn't mess up the name. >> it's adam kinzinger, but that's all right. >> what'd i say? i'm sorry. >> it is my first time here. >> he was elected in 2010 with the tea party support and served as a captain in the air force, including tours in afghanistan and iraq. congressman, welcome very much. >> thanks. >> happy to have you. and welcom
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pundits, there are more people who think they know everything about everything, and that's one of the big differences. that doesn't dismiss or excuse what happened between that exchange that you showed on the tv, but consensus is absolutely essential if we're to move this country along. >> go ahead. >> i'm sorry, i'm a little disgusted and a little angry because i see what's going on every day. we have a situation where the capitol is fiddling itself while the nation capitol is fiddling itself while the nation is burning. grandpare generation, during crisis, during the great depression, we we talk about our grandparents' generation, during crisis, during the great depression, we built the hoover dam, empire state building. and here i see in my cities around america and mine, infrastructure's crumbling around us. in that generation, we said we're going to go to the moon and we're going to do math and science and make sure our kids are prepared to go there. what's happening right now? nations are passing us in droves. over eight different countries now have a higher proportion of students g
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